whats a good brushless setup for the txt/jugg

OnTheEdge

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i was just wondering what a good brushless setup would be for the txt/jugg. as far as the esc and motor,battery? and also what gears.....any help on this? it dont need to be the fastest,but have power and speed:minigun
 
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William

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First, are you going to race, or bash?

Custom chassis or?

Battery selection, do you run lipo or nimh ? How many volts?

Bash setup I think what I would pick is the novak 6.5HV motor and the Castle Mamba Max Pro ESC. That way you can run a 7.2v all the way up to a 4s lipo at 14.8 volts.

Race, I'd go mamba monster and the 2200kv monster motor combo. Then you can actually dial out some power as the track needs.

I would not go with a Novak ESC. I'm not a fan of the relibility of them, nor the lack of ease of programming and adjustability.

Castle ESC's are a breaze to setup, and awesome to dial in for what you need.

My opinion or 2 cents

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HawnMT

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It's going to depend on your setup. If your running the stock trans you should be able to run Castle Creations 1/10th systems like Mamba Max and 4600-7700kv motors just fine. I had cogging issues on my race truck because the new style E-revo trans I run is geared so high. If you run the inverted trans setup you may not be able to fit the larger 1/8 scale motors because of iterference with the driveshaft and links.
 

OnTheEdge

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brushless

thanks for the opinons,well its gonna be on my grave digger #12 that joe at c8c is building. he has pics posted on the tubers forum. most likly just a basher,i dont want to tear it up,but i beleive its all stock tranny and rears. i would like to do some racing,(kinda like they do in the vids),and run lipo.:tmb
 

william g

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then that novak 6.5 HV motor would be perfect. It's a long can motor so tons of torque, easily fits the stock transmission and can run on anywhere from 7-14.8 volts.

Then I'd choose the Castle mamba max pro ESC and some www.hobbycity.com 2s and 3s lipo packs 30c 4,000mah or higher.

You will want 30c or higher for the ''C'' rating. Any less and you won't be able to count on them for a race.
 

HawnMT

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I'll be honest with you, running a brass tube chassis with a TXT drivetrain on monster brushless power may not be advisible. Guy's here run brass tube chassis' with Clod drivetrains with low turn mootrs and do well with them but TXTs put stresses on different areas of the chassis than Clods and in some ways it's a lot more. If your going to be running with Hippie them you'll need all the power and speed you can get which in turn means the truck will be taking a good beating. I'll get hywntrucker808 to comment on this since he knows brass tube chassis' and he's also built them with TXT drivetrains.
 

william g

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the novak 6.5HV motor is a sensor based motor so cogging is not an issue

It is also tame enough on 2s to have great control bbut still very strong torque. Then if you want to get wild, 3s and even 4s are possible.

I have a 6.5HV in a Jammin' 4x4 1/8th buggy based short course truck. It performs well on 2s, and trust me the Jammin' isn't light either.

Stock TXT-1 transmission is 32 pitch spur that you cannot change. So you can only swap pinions around with it.
 

HawnMT

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id be interested to know this also ...... being mine cogs down low
depends on your motor but I would get as low was you dare. I say "dare" because you don't want to go so small that there's only one tooth meshing the gears. Your setup is hard because those New Era chassis' are kinda heavy. Just gear it low and tune out the punch on the esc. You'll lose top speed but you'll have better low speed throttle control.
 

TXT-2.0

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i have a 13 tooth in it now from the 15 .... should i try like a 10 or 11 tooth ? thanks for the advice :tmb

also i dont care bout top speed being its a basher to have fun with ..
 

HawnMT

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i have a 13 tooth in it now from the 15 .... should i try like a 10 or 11 tooth ? thanks for the advice :tmb

also i dont care bout top speed being its a basher to have fun with ..

Your still running the stock tranny right? If so then I'd try the 11 tooth. I'd like to tell you to try the 10 tooth but I'd be afraid that it might be too small and with the weight your running you may end up stripping that plastic spur gear in the trans. If your running an emaxx trans in it I would first change the spur over 72T.
 

TXT-2.0

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yes stock trans .... and ok i'll try the 11 tooth i think that will be ok for what im using it for ,i agree i dont want to strip the spur gear either
 

OnTheEdge

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brushless

ok, well the txt digger will most likly be the shelfqueen/ make a couple passes in the yard truck,i just dont want it to be slow when i do it. but what is cloging? btw, joe is also building me a digger #19 with clod rears,so i guess ill save the speed and racing to that one. any options on that one for brushless?
 

william g

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clod, traxxas VXL motors or 4600 castle motors with castle sidewinder ESC's

I say the 6.5HV and MM Pro for the TTXT

Cogging is a ''stutter'' some trucks see at low RPM'S when the non-sensor or sensorless motor has trouble with the rotor position. Sensor type eliminates that.
 

HawnMT

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ok, well the txt digger will most likly be the shelfqueen/ make a couple passes in the yard truck,i just dont want it to be slow when i do it. but what is cloging? btw, joe is also building me a digger #19 with clod rears,so i guess ill save the speed and racing to that one. any options on that one for brushless?
Cogging is when the brushless motor stutters, it looks like a real truck with carb problems. It's mostly confined to non sensored motors like the Castle Creations 4600, 5700, etc but there are other non sensored brands. It's because the way brushless motors work they need the rotor to be in the right position when the esc sends power. Sensored motors have sensors that tell the esc what position the rotor is in but non sensored motors have to find themselves. It's much worse when the motor is "loaded" like at start or when it's geared to high because it can't get the rotor turning so it ends up shaking it back and forth which is what we see as cogging.

An EZ-Run brushless 3300 kv should get your TXT moving without it being insane. Or you could go with a sensored system like a Novak Havoc 13.5. Not sure what to recommend for the Clod.
 

HawnMT

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Will's suggestion of the 6.5HV and MMP is a better one but I figure since you said it was mostly going to be a shelf queen I went the cheaper route. The Novak Havoc will be half that price and the EZ-run will be about a third.
 

william g

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Will's suggestion of the 6.5HV and MMP is a better one but I figure since you said it was mostly going to be a shelf queen I went the cheaper route. The Novak Havoc will be half that price and the EZ-run will be about a third.
You know, we never mentioned a XE Run setup, the sensor ''cousin'' of the EZ Run. So somewhere around 3300 - 4600kv XE Run
 

OnTheEdge

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brushless

ok, thanks for all that guys, well the txt,im not worried about the price,i just want it when i take of and have fun with it, i want that front left or right tire coming of the ground,lol. i just dont want to destroy the custom chassis. as far as the clod, ive heard alot about 4600s from castle. so ill need 2 complete setups for that right?
 
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