To all NRCTPA members

[MiRatlhed]

As only winning a couple awards for the first time from this club I will say that I was very happy with my two awards I took home. Two of the Clear Oval "Plaque" style with the white print. I thought they were beautiful and I am proud to display them in my hobby room. I would not have been any more impressed with a big ole tall trophy. I would like to continue getting these type of awards. Just as everyone has been saying all along is they can be hung on a wall too.

I bet the hotel would let you guys do a case if it was supplied by the club and we decorated it. Put some history into it with pictures of the outside of the hotel back when they started the event and "club famous" pics that everyone can relate to. Like the thread that was recently about the Jam in PA everybody remembered the "historic" battles. To have that in the case at the hotel would not only be cool for everyone who passes by but I do imagine a few to the club that would love to see it also. I am sure that many of you have won numerous amounts of trophies and would donate a couple to add to the display.

Either way...RC Rocks!

 

[Chris67GMC]

Ok just to point something out here, we are debating ways to save money so we have to do less now then we are already doing which is a whole lot of nothing.

I would be willing to bet if just a little effort went into getting sponsor help we would get some donations.

Small level or large ask for a donation they say yes or no. Most everyone has a small business or 2 around them that would sponsor a class.

I would also bet that the large rc companies do not have the request for donations in. It seems like they are always shipped late and not arriving on time.

We could also try getting a large corporation to come on board to sponsor the worlds. This would involve a proposal and some additional advertising.

Ex.. 2010 nrctpa world finals presented by Lucus oil. If its advertised in national magazines for them to fund the event is cheap to them!

Our sponsors do not have to be just rc related we all drive real cars so thinking outside the box is a good idea.

Why not purchase some large items to raffle of to raise some funds?

Just a thought but being the world champion and to have a name plate on a trophy that mice are going to be the only ones to see is a joke.

For the national club to even have this open for the public to see is a disgrace.
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[ricrush]

Chris you will be getting a pm from me....I will be polite and take this off the board.

 

[dsfire1]

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Why would you take this off the board.It is just his opinion. Do people not have the right to express theres.not trying to start waves.

 

[ricrush]

You know youre right ..... dsfire....I will not send a pm. In the best interest of the club I had better just keep my mouth shut.

Now as far as the ideas. I put my faith into the board of this club. Whatever you guys feel is the best for the club I will go with. Thanks for the hard work and trying to find the alternatives for us.

 

[dsfire1]

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Like i said Rick. Not trying to cause waves. Everyone has an opinion. And i am sure it will all turn out in the end. I am sure we all want what is best for the club.

 

[ricrush]

For the record I have no issues on what was mentioned about the awards or trophies. This is what the post was intended for. Thanks .... I was not trying to offend anyone here on that part. Mike started this post to get feeback on some ideas on what to do with the awards and I thank him for it. The board of this club has limited people to work with and is trying to do the best they can with what they have and I applaud them for it.

 

[dlmealy]

Let's take a step back and look at the original post that Mike posted. It would be nice to see the board come up with something different that does save the club some money. I have to be honest I think our events need some change to liven things up a little. I am sure any idea that comes up here will help them prepare for the up coming Worlds.

The sponsors issue is really not one. Any time we can get a sponsor we are better off. I do agree with Mike though the best sponsors are the ones from within the industry. The more backing we can get from the industry the better off our sport will be. The outside one's are nice, and appreciated, but they are not going to help promote us the way we need it. Now with that said we would be stupid not to take a donation from anyone because like I said in an earlier post it all goes to the same place.

After being in the association for almost 16 years now I have seen a lot of changes. Some have been good and some have been alright. The one thing that I can say has been good is the amount of sponsorships that have come in over the last couple years. A lot of work has been put into this area and a lot of contacts have been made. I think we are still looking for that big break to kind of push into a more main stream view.

Now if you are going to start talking advertising that is a whole different ball game. My views on that have always been our bread and butter should be with full size pulling and monster truck racing. Those are our people. Demos like Bowling Green, the regional NTPA/PPL pulls in NY, and all the Monster Jams are awesome ways to talk to these people and show them what we are about.

Anyway since I have rambled on way to long I am sure the board will do what is in the best interest of the association and we will keep moving forward.

Darren
Mealy Motorsports
Team BNB

 

[DEVASTATOR]

This is going off into a direction different than what was intended. Sponsors do not want to give money. Giving money gets them absolutely nothing in return. Giving away products is much better and that is what we try to shoot for.

I'm not saying going after sponsorships is easy because we've had different people try it and the results generally are the same. We have to work with what we have and if there's somebody who has better skill at dealing with manufacturers then by all means step forward and help the club.

We have to focus on one thing at a time when dealing with something as large as what this is. Let one thing be clear, the club is not sinking financially. But, if there's a way to cut costs while giving more to the membership then it is something we should do. The awards discussion was not introduced for the sole purpose of saving money. It was done to improve the awards and it so happens it would be a very cost effective way to do the awards.

 

[JimmyG]

Al..
Downriver R/C went to Great Lakes for trophies for our yearly event. Asked him what the cost was (told him we were a NRCTPA affiliated club). We then went to our local guy we have dealt with before, and did NOT tell him we went to Great Lakes first. He was 45% less than Great Lakes for same trophies design etc. Im not saying Great Lakes is the worst, but I am sure there are others out there that are more inexpensive.



We also have Sponsors for our Trophies. They get there name on the trophy, and we charge $100.00 for each class. We have never ran out of people wanting to sponsor a class. We even invite them to the event, so they can see what is going on. Almost all of them come and watch the event for more than a hour. That may or may not work with this situation, but its nice to ask. Also, make a few picture cd's of the event and send them to the sponsors, with pictures of the winners of the class that they sponsored. That, I will tell you, goes a long way.

 

[damemr]

Something we could do this year is only buy trophies for 1st and plaques for 2nd and 3rd. Considering plaques are at least a third of the cost of our typical trophy, this should be a significant reduction in cost. The trophy and plaques could even be of a nicer grade and still save money.

I kind of like "Stanley Cup" idea, storage would be the major issue to overcome. Just looked, between the pulling and racing sides there are an average of 40 classes at the Worlds. Thats a bunch of trophies to store or display.

Mark Damewood

 

[TNT_Pulling]

Something we could do this year is only buy trophies for 1st and plaques for 2nd and 3rd. Considering plaques are at least a third of the cost of our typical trophy, this should be a significant reduction in cost. The trophy and plaques could even be of a nicer grade and still save money.

I kind of like "Stanley Cup" idea, storage would be the major issue to overcome. Just looked, between the pulling and racing sides there are an average of 40 classes at the Worlds. Thats a bunch of trophies to store or display.

Mark Damewood

The World's event only has a trophy for 1st and plaques for 2nd & 3rd.

 

[damemr]

I guess I went crazy for a minute and thought there were trophies for three places. Plaques for three places are fine with me.

Mark Damewood

 

[chromey]

I have no idea about comparing cost from A to B for your event. When your doing a local event and dealing with a local vender and you have a set list of items needed it's simple. When you make weekly changes to an order and some time up to a couple of days before an event customer service plays into who your working with.

I can't explain what happened after I stopped dealing with awards. I do know they have bent over backwards to help with what was needed. I know they sponsored the President awards for several years and they also did free delivery to the event location.

They were very helpful with helping to cut cost, taking monies out of their pocket. I don't care were awards are purchased from but they should be given a fare shake before junping off the boat and going to others.

Jimmy you cut my grass and trim for a fee we both agree with, you have been doing it for a long time and we are both happy. Sam comes along and tells me he will do everything you have been doing for three dollars a week less.
A - Should I burn the bridge with you and let Sam take over or.
B - Should I come to you first and let you know what Sam has offered to see if we can come to some kind of new agreement, I think we will both agree it should be B.

Al

 

[nrctpaXpres]

just sayin'

the proposed system creates a lot of work I hope there would be members out there that could do it. (store trophies clean trophies replate trophies)

the springs had sponsors and with those we wound up paying about 240 bucks for awards if we go to ribbons I have no idea who will sponsor that but if there are none ......the cost is about 240 bucks a wash

we never loose money on the worlds we are truly grateful to all of the sponsors who help out..... the clubs, manufacturers, and private sponsors we don't spend what we used to I think last year it was about 2400 bucks and I don't know what the sponsor amount was but it took a big bite out of it.....you are all welcome to your opinions on this and new ideas on this.... I suppose everyone has an idea on what they would like awards or what the winner gets.....

 

[V Needs Speed]

Way to chime in late...thought I would say something too.

Mike, I agree with you, this sounds like an awesome idea on paper and would cut costs highly. Having one trophy for each class would be huge space wise, but if setup somewhere in the hotel would be pretty cool, and it would give like a 24/7 club exposure. Think how cool it would be, if, the room in the atrium (usually the hobby shop room) be like "The NR/CTPA Hall Of Fame." much like the Hockey Hall of Fame where the Stanley Cup is held each year, the nameplates on "The Cup(s)" (trophies) would be held in the hotel.

 

[DEVASTATOR]

Hey Vince, good hearing from you. What you posted was my thought too about exposure. Over the course of a year, a lot of people would see them if they were displayed.