tighter turning radius?

acpainter

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now that ive extended the wheelbase by about 1 1/8" ive obviously lost the tight turning radius of the truck in stock form. any way to increase it again?
 

BJoeHandley

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I'm looking at going to 4ws by putting a servo on the front axle and moving the stock parts back to the rear axle and other side of the chassis (got the battery up front on mine, crawler king style).
 

northerngames

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4ws and xvd's that have a 45 degree pitch and shave the stock axles a tad to get the most out of it.

wheel widener would help some also.
 

northerngames

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a longer wheel base sure but not going wider.

taken from a racing wiki about steering components

Wheel spacers are installed between the hub and the wheel and push the wheels further away from the chassis, widening the track. This in turn increases the amount of grip that your vehicle has in corners, allowing faster cornering.

however it is more hard on the steering components and take more power to turn but it will turn sharper.

no different then me spening over 2k+ on my quad to add the extended racing A-arm's for better steering and stability.

picture your 2wd truck with clod wheels on the front and some 2.2's on the rear and what kinda cyclones you could pull off.

another example in a reversed orientation picture a drag racing rail setup as they are not setup for tight turns but extend them front wheels out 3-4 feet per side and that long rocket will cut corners alot better.
 
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william g

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a small narrow vehicle turns in a sharper circle than a larger wider unit.
Your mixing things up

Widening for the sake of high speed stability you still can't turn on a dime at high speed. At low speeds a narrow vehicle can turn inside a wide one.
Some may widen a vehicle a small amount for a wheel to turn/angle more by clearing a frame component, but the reason it can turn tighter is it has a sharper angled wheel not the width.
 

joe

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correct.
Every rc I've ever widened (as the only mod) lost some turning radius ability.
Widening the track width definitely is a negative on steering.
 

BlueIce12

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And the kits to widen it are terrible, my Integy kit broke where the axle shaft pin goes for the hub and i was only running the Hpi stock Wheely king tires and that was just running out in the grass and road to test it at my house nothing i did would cause the break. :eek
 

BJoeHandley

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Just saw on RC Crawler that RCP has a new order in with MIP for their WK/CK CVD's and are hoping to see them by late March!
 

northerngames

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that's a swift kick to the nuts I just ordered the xvd's like a week ago.

I may grab a set of these mip's too though. I dont know what is better still but crossing my finders either one will or at least one of the two will be able to handle my size WK.

as for the tighter turning you guy's know way more about this stuff then I do and alway's thought wider was better for the monsters since there not really intended for smaller or short tracks and are prone to high speed rolls becuase there not wide enough.

either one of mine probably wont even run on a track but they were made to be fun fast trucks to go where I want them to go.

if I wanted something for tracks and coarse racing I would get a rc10 or a short coarse truck etc. something that is made for the tracks.

there cool but they would neve mud bog rock climb or be much fun anywhere but the track and why I never took any interest in the rc10's short coarse trucks etc. they can't climb rocks go over any obstacles or anything even close to what the clods would go through or climb over.

last time I went to a track my nitro usa-1 could not even make the turns so it just went up and over everything like a freestyle track to be any fun lol.

closest hooby is almost 2hrs away so I am not even gonna look to see where any tracks are at I just dont see the point in trying to make a huge truck fit on small tight tracks but I am not a racer either.
 
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acpainter

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I'm not too interested in driving a track. I just want a more reasonable turning radius, main reason is I often drive in smaller areas. I was looking at it last nite, and was wondering if I shave or notch the carrier will it increase the radius any?
 

william g

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if by carrier you mean the knuckle/axle hub part you can, but have to be carefull that there is no binding in the dogbone and cup. Or that the dogbone won't walk a pin out of the cup slot. That is why CVD's are very much in demand
 

northerngames

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you will still need to either shave some of your plastic or get some aluminum knuckles to get the most out of the xvd's but it will be well worth it in the end.
 
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