Question for Brett at CPE!!!!! Or ANYONE who knows!!

XStatic Dallas

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Did you by change design the blackwell axles? If so...I have a question about using a front axle on the rear...if i used the tandem axle adapter (optional diff) would this allow me to flip the axle backwards so I can use the front as a rear, and have it spin the right direction?? Friend of mine is asking...would like to get these axles for a project truck he's doing.
 

cpe mt

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No idea as we do not design parts for RC4WD. I'd send "Racer4Life" a PM about them though as he'll be able to answer your question. Thanks!
 

Digger

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Just by turning the axle around so that the pinion points forward instead of backwards essentially reverses the axle to turn the right direction.

Follow me here... say the driveshaft spins the front pinion clockwise to make the front wheels turn forwards, now take the same axle and turn it 180 degrees to be in the back of the truck. Now the pinion has to turn counter-clockwise for the wheels to turn the same direction as the front axle does... If you flip the axle upside down as well as just turning it around, the front and back wheels will spin opposite directions, trying to either pull the truck apart or fold itself up...
 

XStatic Dallas

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That's exactly what I was asking. But after looking at the diff I noticed I cant just turn the diff backwards unless I completely rebuild the whole axle backwards. But the 179.99 price tag takes experimenting out of the equasion as I do NOT know if I would be able to flip the internal parts, as most of us know. I probably can not.

But with the optional top diff, it has an input AND an output to allows you set them up as a tandem, so I'm thinking that if I get THAT diff with the axle...I could use the input as the output, to reverse the rotation. And swap the knuckles so the steerings correct.

I just want to make sure that I can do that. I know on the monster trucks they use 2 rears, cut the the tubes to install corners, and on the front axle they will flip the diff upside down.

I just cant justify spending money I dont have to "find out" LOL. Was wondering if anyone knew for sure or not.
 

Digger

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That's my point, you don't need to! Just buy and build 2 front axles exactly the same. When you mount them to the chassis with the pinions pointing at eachother(so you can connect the driveshafts to the same transmission) the tires will be spinning the right way. If you try to reverse the one axle's rotation, you will be screwing things up, making it turn the WRONG way.

Do you have access to any solid axle truck to look at? Like an SCX10, AX10, Losi crawler, TLT-1, TXT-1, Juggernaut, etc? If so, take a good close look at the axles. On the Tamiyas, the axles are exactly the same front and rear. On the Axials, Losi, etc the center part of the axles are the same, it's just the outer hub area that's different between front and rear.

Try to keep up again, the transmission in the center of the truck spins the driveshafts. Both the front and rear driveshafts spin the same direction, because they are locked together inside the transmission.(let's just say from driver's side-over the top-to passenger side). Now imagine you are looking at the front axle from the middle of the truck; the driveshaft is rotating clockwise to make the front tires rotate forward. turn around and look at the rear axle; the driveshaft spins counterclockwise to make the tires rotate forward.

Bottom line: buy two front axles and build them exactly the same, you will be fine. It will work the way you want it to without any special consideration. Don't beleive me or still don't think it will work? Drop the hobby and take up knitting or something... LOL!
 

william g

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They are very cool axles. Very versatile too. Jon Z pointed to the article that explains how to reverse direction by moving the internal pinion gear from one side to the other.

And like Neil said, if both are assembled the same exact way it shouldn't matter.

So yes, you can use those axles in more configurations than many other axles could ever dream about.
 

XStatic Dallas

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No Digger I gotcha. Beacause the axle is facing the opposite direction it will spun backwards which will in turn cause it to spin...correctly...that makes sense right? ::shrugs::
 

Digger

R.C. Alley
Exactly! Build both axles exactly the same, then as you mount them on the truck with the driveshafts towards the middle of the truck, they will spin they way you want them to.:tmb
 
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