New Wheel Design Question

[Forrest]

well, I have a nifty concept that I need to get feed back on. I most likely should not post the topic since there are some parts manufactures that do not have problems steeling designs. But who cares because they have horrible service rite :ack

anyway, in late December I will be marketing a new 2.2" interior bead lock wheel.
the wheel is going to be a two piece wheel but I am having trouble deciding if the wheel should have a built in hub and bearing design like last the 05' & 06' wheels, or should the wheels have a seperate hub?

If I use the seperate hub part it is completely possible to offer an optional hub that will allow the wheel to fit the tamiya hex also. this optional hub design can be milled as a FOE disk brake rotor or something like that.

on the other hand if I incorporate the back half of the wheel with the hub and bearing, I can simply offer a replacement back section of the wheel with the hex slotted in the wheel.

either way, it works great for the constomer. When new wheel patterns are available my customer can return for a whole new set of wheels or just buy the front half that will host the design.


does this make sense?


so, if some certain jack leg rips this design off you guys have my back; rite!



Oh, I should have the prototype in hand early december.....

 

[Supreme Reign]

This sounds like the 3-piece 2.6" rims used by the Kyosho Double-Dare(my favorite rims). It had a round cylinder that held the tire to the rim sections, and the outside rim bolted into the inside rim. I love the idea of just buying the face of the rims when a new design is released

 

[Electrohacker]

if they had hubs permanent, I'd lose the front hub functionality... I'm not set up for that

 

[sig p232]

I personally like the idea of having the hub seperate from the wheel and the you can make a hex adapter to fit more vehicles and sell more wheels bringing down the price.

I really like the idea of having the two peice wheels, but in a way it takes away from the simplicity of some designs.

Nate

 

[william g]

I agree, hub seperate

 

[ScaleManiac]

hub seperate this way if we want to space out the front to even out the track, we can... O and a narrower wheel

 

[Forrest]

ok, here is what I can do. how about the wheels with seperate hubs and an optional narrowed back section for you rock crawler guys.

 

[Electrohacker]

:rcmtrocks :truck

 

[ScaleManiac]

Originally posted by Forrest@Nov 17 2006, 12:05 AM
ok, here is what I can do. how about the wheels with seperate hubs and an optional narrowed back section for you rock crawler guys.

Now thats what I am talking about :kudo

-Mike

 

[william g]

See I knew Forrest would help us out :rof

Thanks, looking forward to some, to go on a high lift instead of plastics.

 

[Eviltwincustoms]

Originally posted by Forrest@Nov 16 2006, 08:05 PM
ok, here is what I can do. how about the wheels with seperate hubs and an optional narrowed back section for you rock crawler guys.

So Forrest are you saying that the Rear Wheels would potentially be narrower then the front?
Don't know if I would like the look or are you referring to the rear would have a different offset?

I would have to agree that a seperate Hub would be best. However for the Bruiser and Mountaineer, is their a way to make the Hub narrower so the wheel doesnt has so much offset. Moving the offset of the wheel will make the front a shallow dish wheel and doesnt look as good.

 

[william g]

no, he means a multi piece wheel
option back half for a narrow width rim for scale and crawlers

And an option hub for hex drive, ie tlt and high lift

 

[Eviltwincustoms]

Originally posted by william g@Nov 17 2006, 04:24 PM
no, he means a multi piece wheel
option back half for a narrow width rim for scale and crawlers

And an option hub for hex drive, ie tlt and high lift

Right I got the hub part but it just sounded like Forrest is going to narrow only the rear to meet the Crawler requirements.
I have never been to a COMP or read the requirements. Is the front within the width requirements if they run a narrowed wheel?

So if this is the case and with the rear being so mush wider this would make the rear narrow wheel even narrower.

As well with a seperate hub that would bolt onto the axle to mate up to the hex if it is anything like RC4WD's Bruiser Hex Hubs they make the Wheel Width even wider.

 

[Forrest]

eviltwin, thats not it.

I will be making a two piece, actaully a 4 piece, wheel.

a front (PART A), a back (PART B), and two plastic inserts (PARTS C&D) that will fit between the A & B parts.
look at a naked bruiser wheel with the inserts attached. exactly the same but the two wheel parts will fasten together very differently.

when I said that the wheels would have an optional back section, I was trying to say that the back of all the wheel (PART B) would be available in a reduced width in order to narrow the over all width of the wheel.

I hoppe this helps.

 

[Electrohacker]

he may be confised because the bruiser axles are diffrent widths... i think he thinks you'll try and compensate so they are equal... but your not... I bet you could add an option for wideners right?

 

[Rpp Hobby]

Sounds cool to me forrest! CAn't wait to see some designs