New TXT-2 at the nurburgring toy fair

[1Badclod]

I agree with you now that you put in that prospective. I wouldn't buy a 500 dollar truck and put money into it right out of gate if I were just wanting a mt I'd buy a more popular brand such as hpi for the savy flux and not have to worry about putting more money into it


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Let me rephrase that a bigger more stronger truck not a mt from hpi cause that does not exist lol


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[HawnMT]

I dont think Tamiya is trying to really "compete" with anyone else with a better product...

But in the end Gavyn they are. Each of us only has "X" amount of dollars to spend on this hobby so we are always comparing products and deciding what product we will buy over another.

 

[KingClod27]

But in the end Gavyn they are. Each of us only has "X" amount of dollars to spend on this hobby so we are always comparing products and deciding what product we will buy over another.

I agree...let me rephrase that lol

It doesnt seem like they care if they are competing or not....If they did they wouldnt be releasing this..

 

[janderson]

HAHA! Yes Mr. Andeson that is the one thing I think all of us, hate it or love it, can agree that the wheels and tires dont fit!

I dont think Tamiya is trying to really "compete" with anyone else with a better product or they wouldve released a brand new design with newer technology in mind...this, IMHO, is strickly marketed for guys like us...

I do not like the wheels and tires either!

 

[mcfig]

Finally this is out in the open, but like others have said....certain parts look like crap compaired to the prototype.

 

[JKRacing37]

There seems to be a lot of "something is better than nothing" attitude in this thread.

In the real world - with real consumers and real money - that attitude doesn't fly. I'm going to keep from getting too hot and bothered by it until more facts come out and the truck is in consumer's hands, but if this truck isn't designed with modern brushless and lipo powertrain systems in mind than forget the tires and rims as this will have completely missed the mark, IMO.

Tamiya needs to keep in mind the capabilities and price point of this truck when the Mad Force Kruizer VE is RTR with a huge brushless motor, robust drivetrain and come in a hair over the $400 mark on A Main.

 

[monsterjamman24]

I agree with John, if this truck isnt brushless ready im not buying it, not matter how cool the chassis is or what tires are on it. Brushed motors are a thing of the past we want to run the truck forever and know we dont have to replace brushes. If I have to worry about the gears sheering and what not its not a truck I want. I'm glad to see Tamyia is interested in our side of the hobby I'd just like them to put forth the extra effort to cater to the year 2013 and not 1997, The sweet looking chassis and body are a start but you need to upgrade teh meat and potatoes of the truck as well

 

[HawnMT]

There seems to be a lot of "something is better than nothing" attitude in this thread.

In the real world - with real consumers and real money - that attitude doesn't fly.

Since I said that word for word, I'll respond.....

First off, I consider myself a real consumer with real hard earned money......

The reason I said that is because it's good that critical TXT parts will remain in production and not leave all of us TXT owners hanging, scrounging around for parts. Now is the truck that I would want, no. But I've come to the realization when it comes to Tamiya, they will ALWAYS march to the beat of their own drum. They'll listen to minor things once an awhile, but overall they'll do things their way, in their time. Now sometimes that works in our favor as they've built trucks no one else would've i.e. the Clod, Bruiser, Highlift, etc... But sometimes , like this, it works against us. If they were going to change it would take a major shake up in that company. So in being realistic with my expectations from them I say this is better than nothing because it REALLY is.

Now as far as the brushless thing, it really isn't that important to me. Yes, I would like it but it would take a major redesign of the trans and some parts, if not all of, the axles. For me Tamiya has always represented the "scale" end of the hobby and this truck and other recent releases have gone far way from that. That is the part that bothers me. We have millions of other trucks that can go brushless and crash into walls and jump over houses. We need more scale monsters.

 

[TXT-2.0]

seeing the dual motors and possible same trans is a let down brushless is here and they should have keep with times and had a single motor setup BL setups are very cheap now ....just my opinion

i just feel let down that its 2013 and tamiya just kept the drive line basically the same with all the cheap BL setups and YES i love to mod my trucks but to have to spend the money on clod tires and wheels right out of the box is a bit much ..... at least the original TXT had the look of a modern monster

if this truck isn't designed with modern brushless and lipo powertrain systems in mind than forget the tires and rims as this will have completely missed the mark, IMO.

Tamiya needs to keep in mind the capabilities and price point of this truck when the Mad Force Kruizer VE is RTR with a huge brushless motor, robust drivetrain and come in a hair over the $400 mark on A Main.

Brushed motors are a thing of the past we want to run the truck forever and know we dont have to replace brushes. If I have to worry about the gears sheering and what not its not a truck I want. I'm glad to see Tamyia is interested in our side of the hobby I'd just like them to put forth the extra effort to cater to the year 2013 and not 1997

for me yes the tires and wheels are an issue BUT this sums it up for me , at least have a brushless ready trans for upgrades down the road and a driveline that can handle it

 

[TXT-2.0]

We need more scale monsters.

well said Kent , and the brushless thing is just have stronger gears ....something could be done without redesigning the whole drive line

 

[KingClod27]

I think wat makes this group of guys special is we can take nothing and make something...I have come to realize wat kinda company Tamiya is...they were never gonna release a Brand New state of the art design...Its just not wat they do....The stock chassis for the Clod was not ideal for anything so we slowly made tons of aftermarket chassis's to fit our needs..crawling, racing..etc. For the guys who want a "race" style TXT they will make their own chassis like people have been doing..but for us that just want a good basher out the box without upgrading the chassis and everything else, the TXT-1 and 2 are good, We only use the axles from the Clod anyway, so if TXT axle and trans parts are available then that will help, But If I buy this truck I would be buying it to leave it stock and upgrade certain things....and of course the cost would be more than a stock clod because the parts are better...If Tamiya released something like the Mad Force it would cost $800 and we would be complaining about the price. Tamiya is wat Tamiya is...if we want a BEAST of a solid axle truck then we need to look else where because Tamiya is not giving us that...I only said we should be happy with it because wat else do we have? No other company is giving us anything really....Solid axle is not important to most people outside of these few forums.....sad to say those words

 

[Mo']

Here is what I'll never get. The solid axle community is a small niche market that is pretty easily singled out in a few places online for input. Solid axle vehicles, outside of the crawling community, have such small widespread appeal in the general RC MT market. So why would any company (especially one like Tamiya who knows our little group exists) invest the time and resources into releasing a new truck while basically firing blindly from the hip in terms of equipping it? Its unfortunate too because I assume Tamiya will always sell that set amount of their vehicles to those who can't not purchase every new release from them regardless of how goofy they are. Those people would have still been there had they not made it look like a toy.



This thing looks stupid. Not just the styling on it, but the things that have been visibly changed from the OG TXT to make this one. I was never crazy about the first TXT as a platform to begin with, but it could have been vastly improved on with some basic input. You know, actually improving the parts people will inevitably end up using from this truck. Instead it looks like we have gotten a New Bright spec'd chassis with what appears to be the same fragile transmission sandwiched in the middle of it and overly complex axles beneath it. No need to even mention the body/wheel tire combo. All it needs now is a plastic driver in the cab with an oversized head and bug eyes.



Im glad all you guys with TXT's will likely have access to the parts you need again. But other than that I just cant get excited for this thing.



Maybe it's just my brain saving up its excitement for when they release the Wild Willy chassis with a Zamboni body on it... wait...




/rant

 

[DEVASTATOR]

I'll get on Mo's bandwagon. He stated pretty much how I feel so I'll cling to his post.

I will add this though.... Given what people have done with the Clod, Jugg and TXT-1, I really believe people *showed* with their own ingenuity and crafting skills what they wanted a solid axle MT to be. People race them, people make rock crawlers and most of all people BASH with them. There are just countless examples of all three things I mentioned plastered all over internet forums. The proof of what we as consumers do is OUT THERE. Companies that make good decisions study demographics to make sure what they want to sell will actually sell. Why can't or why won't Tamiya do that?

While yes petitions have been started and signed and sent, nothing can tell a company more about what people want than to view their product being used by the masses. Look to the internet and see what people are doing, the projects, the events, the aftermarket support etc.... For cripes sake we have a TAMIYA rep here who has given them our DIRECT input!!! Is there THAT much of a disconnect between the manufacturer and the consumer that they can deliver to us what they just have????

I'm not going to list what I do or don't like about the new release because as it has become blatantly obvious, TAMIYA does NOT give two ***** about what we want or what we think.

I will *ALWAYS* proudly drive/race my custom Clodbusters, Jugg's and TXT-1's because I am not going to boycott TAMIYA over this but I will not ever sign another petition asking them for anything.

 

[hellgod]

Even I have awoken from my slumber to come back to RCMT to comment on this!

*insert all of the above*.

 

[JKRacing37]

The reason I said that is because it's good that critical TXT parts will remain in production and not leave all of us TXT owners hanging, scrounging around for parts.

That is a positive to this, for sure. I'm happy for you guys that need the parts that they will continue to be available.

The only other point I would make is you can have scale and durability. They do not need to be exclusive of each other.

 

[MrDouglas]

I love the original clod and bruiser....but the fact of the matter is (as everyone has posted) Tamiya is way out of touch. They used to be able to get away with charging outrageous prices for trucks that can't even perform out of the box because no one else was doing it. Nowadays companies like Axial & Traxxas are putting out stuff that is super scale for reasonable prices....and they run great right out of the box. The wheels and tires are a great example. This truck (and what is sure to be a stupid high price) is for the niche market of scale monster truckers....so then they include those monstrosities and you immediately tack another 80-100 bucks on top for wheels and tires.

Glad you guys have parts again, but I hope that soon Axial releases a scale monster truck for an affordable price that can boogie right out of the box. Heck, I was interested in a Farm King because they look cool, but at 220 (which is damn near the price of a Wraith kit!) there is no way!

TL;DR - I agree with most of what's been said.

 

[HawnMT]

The only other point I would make is you can have scale and durability. They do not need to be exclusive of each other.

I absolutely agree, and had this been a totally new design, built from the ground up, I would have been more critical. But this was just a slight redesign of the original so my expectations are a lot lower. Would a new single motor, brushless capable trans been nice? Absolutely! But then your left with what to do with the axles. Redesign those along with the chassis changes and you well on your way to a whole new truck. Like Mo said, they could've come here and asked for some input but that just isn't Tamiyas way. I don't like, in fact I hate, which is why I've given up on them making a truly ground breaking monster truck and why I have been pushing for Axial to enter our market.

 

[Manfjourde]

The more I look at it, the more I think it is so ugly. I am uber bored in a Master's class watching a vid that the professor showed 3 years ago in my undergrad! Anway...it is too bad that Tamiya didn't basically make this truck to cater to our small corner of the market. If they would have done that and made it for the people (like that new Vattera Twin Hammers) the people would have been all over it! Either way it is too bad and super lame. Back to class.

 

[ElectricBeast]

When look at pictures of this truck I don't even see that ridiculous body or those fugly tires and wheels. I see a Chevy pickup body and some big fat clod meats!

 

[TXT-2.0]

When look at pictures of this truck I don't even see that ridiculous body or those fugly tires and wheels. I see a Chevy pickup body and some big fat clod meats!

I see that too but why do I have to spend over $100 right out of the box for new wheels and tires