My 2013 RCMT-HI Outlaw Truck Build AKA "Clod Killer v2"

FlashGordon1

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At my old age, some times I too think about the what if?s, such as what if I went into the metal working after high school instead of the direction I followed? Or what if I went into automotive, being a machinist, woodworking etc. Don?t get me wrong, I do enjoy my career, it allows me this hobby (so far..LOL).


Aloha
Joe you are not old my friend! Like I always said to my late father,in his wonderful life time. " Your not old! Your like a bottle of vintage grape wine! You get better with age :emot180: !!!!
 

FlashGordon1

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Good after noon everyone. I have been reading and studying this topic about a week or two. Now with the direct drive setup,(center diff). What's the pro's and con's from using a center diff then using the Axial (stock) transmission? My friend Justin from clod talk told me that it's bullet proof. However I would like hear it from the pro's please! Have a wonderful weekend my people.

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FlashGordon1

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Now the reason why I am asking y'all this question, I am thinking about doing for my project. I did found some OFNA parts from Nitrohouse, and they are 1/8th parts. www.nitrohouse.com
1. Diff Output Shaft (2) ofn30771 $6.76
2. Ultra Center Diff Case ofn30761 $8.46
3. Ultra Diff Gear Set ofn30769 $12.71 also I had some help from a good friend two! His name is North from facebook. Also he is new hear, INTBY is his user name.

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JoeWorks

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Now the reason why I am asking y'all this question, I am thinking about doing for my project. I did found some OFNA parts from Nitrohouse, and they are 1/8th parts. www.nitrohouse.com
1. Diff Output Shaft (2) ofn30771 $6.76
2. Ultra Center Diff Case ofn30761 $8.46
3. Ultra Diff Gear Set ofn30769 $12.71 also I had some help from a good friend two! His name is North from facebook. Also he is new hear, INTBY is his user name.

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Those part looks like they should work. I'm guessing a gasket and/or o-ring set is needed and I'm not sure if the diff case includes them. You also need to find a spur gear to fit or adapt to the housing and a pair of flanged bearings with its inside diameter to go over the diff housing and the outside diameter matching a standard drill bit since the motor plates will be drilled to it.

Though the motor plate that I've designed and fabricated works for the parts I've used and chassis and motor design, I'm not sure it will work for your application not knowing what spur/pinion being used and chassis space and motor location.

Good start and good luck.

Aloha
 

FlashGordon1

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Those part looks like they should work. I'm guessing a gasket and/or o-ring set is needed and I'm not sure if the diff case includes them. You also need to find a spur gear to fit or adapt to the housing and a pair of flanged bearings with its inside diameter to go over the diff housing and the outside diameter matching a standard drill bit since the motor plates will be drilled to it.

Though the motor plate that I've designed and fabricated works for the parts I've used and chassis and motor design, I'm not sure it will work for your application not knowing what spur/pinion being used and chassis space and motor location.

Good start and good luck.

Aloha
To answer some of this comment. I am going to be using a chassis from Hot-Racing http://www.hot-racing.com/index.cgi?partnumber=WK1408;c=237
Now the spur gear and pinion gear is a good question. Now the motor,it's going to be the xerun 6000 kv motor by Hobbywing.
 

JoeWorks

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Not sure what gear ratio for the 6000kv motor. I hope the following will help.

I'm currently using a Robinson Racing #8274 74t 32/mod .8 pitch plastic spur and 15t pinion powered by a Novak 550 6.5 Ballistic, a MMP EsSC and 2s lipo.
 

FlashGordon1

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Not sure what gear ratio for the 6000kv motor. I hope the following will help.

I'm currently using a Robinson Racing #8274 74t 32/mod .8 pitch plastic spur and 15t pinion powered by a Novak 550 6.5 Ballistic, a MMP EsSC and 2s lipo.
How sells this item because Tower dont.
 

JoeWorks

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I bought what was available from my local hobby shop. From my understanding it was for the first generation Traxxas E/T Maxx trucks. You may want to check the auction site or other manufacturers that is similar.

Before I found the RR gears, my plan was to use the Traxxas 72t 32p plastic spur and fabricate a drill jig to center drill/bore it to fit over and bolt on to the center diff housing.
 
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HawnMT

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Flash you have to calm down, and do some more reading/research. Joe's setup is geared extremely high, just under 15 to 1 final drive ratio. That's what a direct drive does, gear up really high. the reason he can run that in a monster is because he's using a large 550 can motor. If you try running a 6000kv regular 540 can brushless it'll cog, badly.

I know I'm probably wasting my breath explaining this because after trying to help you with your TXT build I know when you get tunnel visioned on something like this you're going to do what you want anyway. You'll ask questions but if you don't like the answer you'lll just ask someone else until you get the answer you want. But just in case someone else reads this and wants to try it, please take into account every part of the truck, don't get fixated on just one part, like the trans. What axles, motor, weight of the truck, size of the tire, and a whole bunch of other stuff will affect the truck. You have to plan an entire truck at once, not build one thing and hope it'll work what what you get later on.
 

william g

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Flash you have to calm down, and do some more reading/research. Joe's setup is geared extremely high, just under 15 to 1 final drive ratio. That's what a direct drive does, gear up really high. the reason he can run that in a monster is because he's using a large 550 can motor. If you try running a 6000kv regular 540 can brushless it'll cog, badly.

I know I'm probably wasting my breath explaining this because after trying to help you with your TXT build I know when you get tunnel visioned on something like this you're going to do what you want anyway. You'll ask questions but if you don't like the answer you'lll just ask someone else until you get the answer you want. But just in case someone else reads this and wants to try it, please take into account every part of the truck, don't get fixated on just one part, like the trans. What axles, motor, weight of the truck, size of the tire, and a whole bunch of other stuff will affect the truck. You have to plan an entire truck at once, not build one thing and hope it'll work what what you get later on.
I have to agree 100%.

Joe if you'd like me to break the off topic posts to their own thread just say so.
 

FlashGordon1

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Flash you have to calm down, and do some more reading/research. Joe's setup is geared extremely high, just under 15 to 1 final drive ratio. That's what a direct drive does, gear up really high. the reason he can run that in a monster is because he's using a large 550 can motor. If you try running a 6000kv regular 540 can brushless it'll cog, badly.

I know I'm probably wasting my breath explaining this because after trying to help you with your TXT build I know when you get tunnel visioned on something like this you're going to do what you want anyway. You'll ask questions but if you don't like the answer you'lll just ask someone else until you get the answer you want. But just in case someone else reads this and wants to try it, please take into account every part of the truck, don't get fixated on just one part, like the trans. What axles, motor, weight of the truck, size of the tire, and a whole bunch of other stuff will affect the truck. You have to plan an entire truck at once, not build one thing and hope it'll work what what you get later on.
Got it:emot172: ! And no,your not wasting your breath on this subject. I will do more reading. Sorry Joe and everyone:emot103:!
 

william g

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Got it:emot172: ! And no,your not wasting your breath on this subject. I will do more reading. Sorry Joe and everyone:emot103:!
you keep saying that each time.
TXT
AR60 wraith axles and trans
now this direct drive setup

Please do learn, and stick to 1, maybe 2 places for info on a project. Spreading it all around makes people question whether or not to even answer you. It gets frustrating to the people who try to help, honestly.
 
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