Kyosho Mad Force VE (ATTN: Soulja55)

[AirForceOne]

Is not as tough as it appears in that video! Here's mine after less 24 hours of ownership, less than 5 minutes driving in a open parking lot, half paved, half gravel:

Busted knuckle and fractured axle tube. Replacement parts readily available from A-Main Hobbies though. Although, I wonder if the metal fab shop could whittle me something one off up...

EDIT: It is flippin' fast though. Literally flipping. :laugh

 

[william g]

did you cartwheel?
Sorry to hear it broke on you Jevin :-(

 

[Thunder VP]

I've busted a few of those even on the original Twin Force. They are tough for a cast part, but it seams if you hit them just the right way they will snap.
RC4WD has some nice CNC versions on sale:
http://store.rc4wd.com/Aluminum-CNC-Knuckles-for-MadForce-TwinForce_p_236.html

The rear ones usually break if you come down on one wheel off a nose up jump. For the rear I made a set of Delrin straight tubes and run an 8mm shaft from the dif to the wheel.

 

[AirForceOne]

did you cartwheel?
Sorry to hear it broke on you Jevin :-(

Didn't even cartwheel! Made a high speed run, turned 180 degrees, started back on the straight. Hit a patch of dust, the truck spun and overturned; spit out the front driveshaft and ker-plunked the knuckle. Weird wreck.

EDIT: Darren, think you could make some more of them? Also, any recommendations for tightening up the steering?

 

[Geoff240ti]

I've busted the same knuckle as well... It was on a lame jump in my basement. Seems you have to do it just right, It's taken much worse abuse since the new part.

 

[Kujo]

How do ya'll keep breaking stuff??? My wheels keep breaking but the truck has been holding up great, it may not be brushless fast but it's quicker than most.

 

[Mo']

Didn't even cartwheel! Made a high speed run, turned 180 degrees, started back on the straight. Hit a patch of dust, the truck spun and overturned; spit out the front driveshaft and ker-plunked the knuckle. Weird wreck.

EDIT: Darren, think you could make some more of them? Also, any recommendations for tightening up the steering?

One thing you will find over time is that the stock steering setup on the truck is the best setup out there. Slop and all.


Its amazing with how complex it is.. but it truly makes the truck steer the best.

 

[Dominick Shauntee]

One thing you will find over time is that the stock steering setup on the truck is the best setup out there. Slop and all.


Its amazing with how complex it is.. but it truly makes the truck steer the best.

I'll have to agree to disagree with that statement my new era front bumper with direct steering set-up is FAR better than stock set-up on my Twinforce

 

[Tad]

The very first twin I bought took me about 15 minutes to break. It broke a axle tube. Faulty part. Bad thing wasn't any parts for it because it had just came out. Since then I have broke very few things but anything can be broken lol. It is hands down the strongest monster ever built in my opinion.

For steering throw away all the funky stuff and mount a servo to the axle or trailing arm you will be much happier.

 

[Kujo]

The very first twin I bought took me about 15 minutes to break. It broke a axle tube. Faulty part. Bad thing wasn't any parts for it because it had just came out. Since then I have broke very few things but anything can be broken lol. It is hands down the strongest monster ever built in my opinion.

For steering throw away all the funky stuff and mount a servo to the axle or trailing arm you will be much happier.

I like my steering, of course mine is all aluminum, but a stock style setup...

 

[Mo']

I'll have to agree to disagree with that statement my new era front bumper with direct steering set-up is FAR better than stock set-up on my Twinforce

In a racing application I have never seen a setup that outperforms the stock setup. As goofy as it is it just works the best when setup right.


Plus it allows you to not have to run one of those POS servo savers on the servo and utilize the stock unit with a much more substantial spring.



Just sayin..

 

[DEVASTATOR]

Everybody has their opinion. Depending on what you run/race on will possibly give you a different thought. I am with Mo simply because I have witnessed the different steering setups in action. I run a stock setup regarding chassis, steering and suspension. I do use a single 2S lipo cross mounted through the chassis though along with Imex Clod tires. This thing rails on carpet using the stock steering. I have yet to see an aftermarket steering setup come close to what mine will do.

Mo ran his TF the same way and it has killer steering too. Could it be a carpet thing? Maybe. Running outside on dirt maybe it doesn't work so well. I can't speak for that because I have never tried it with my current setup. I have run it outside with stock tires and also with Panther Plowboy E-Maxx tires and both tire types allowed for awesome steering.

 

[Orange Pedeanaut]

Mines bouncy, stupid stock tires and slow servo....

 

[Kujo]

I'm running a Traxxas 3072(?) digital servo, even with the wheels on it now, (Maxximizer beadlocks with swampdogs) it turns great.

 

[AirForceOne]

Well I got my replacement parts and got the truck back running again. There is way too much power in this rig for the stock dog bone driveshafts! It keeps spitting them out no matter how easily you roll into the throttle. I still have not had the truck out full bore yet. But, today it spit out both the front and rear driveshafts. I recovered the rear, but the front was nowhere to be found. The truck has potential. I need to replace the tires, upgrade the driveshafts and get a 2.4GHz radio in it. Then I should be ready to rock. Unfortunately that will have to wait until I get home. :ack